AMD Vega

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    Charcharo
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    On August the 14th AMD will finally release their RX Vega gaming GPUs.

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    I will update this with arch details when I can.

    Anyways the Vega GPU is aimed at Machine Intelligence, Server and Professional use, Design, Cinema, and supposedly – high performance gaming.

    https://videocardz.com/71487/amd-radeon-vega-graphics-cards-explained

    Of these the most interesting are the Vega SSG (2TB SSD + HBCC + HBM2 = unique product), the Instinct card as it is supposedly really good, if rough with the software ATM and the WX and Frontier Editions, which are gonna be good for game development and prosumer apps.

    The RX 56 is cut down Vega. Think R9 Fury Non X. It will likely be the best AMD card from the new lineup, like how R9 Fury was the best Fiji card, RX 470/570 the best Polaris, R9 290 and 390 etc.

    The RX 64 is the flagship. Think R9 Fury X

    Vega Nano is similar in concept to R9 Nano. Interesting GPU with niche appeal, but impressive technology.

    Vega Technology:
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    High Bandwidth Cache Controller (HBCC)
    Work in progress but its actually awesome

    Next Generation Compute Unit

    Full DX12 (and likely OpenGL 4.6 and Vulkan) support
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    So far Vega Professional pros:
    -Good Machine learning it seems
    -Good prosumer performance
    -SSG is peerless for now, no competition to it exists

    Vega Professional cons:
    -Some of the Instinct software is young, supposedly.
    -Prosumer drivers need more maturing even if its already good.
    -Perf/watt is similar to Novideo, not better.

    As for RX Vega (gaming).
    Vega gaming pros:
    -Full DX12_1 support, better than Polaris and Pascal
    -Probably full OpenGL 4.6 and Vulkan feature support
    -FP16 will let it likely tie the 1080 Ti in Wolfenstein 2 and Far Cry 5 and the other 3 games that will ship with this
    -Certainly will age better than GTX 1080 and 1070, its price competition.

    Vega gaming cons:
    -486mm^2 GPU and it cant beat a Gimperon Novideo 1080 outright
    -250+ watts to do that
    -WTF AMD?
    -Aimed at anything but gamers, for now, as an architecture, even if the product will be good for its price.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieykdT5q-EU
    lol 2kliksphilip *sigh*

    #200808
    strudinox
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    Hope it succeeds, finally some (hopefully) real competition with Quatro.

    #200814
    Charcharo
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    #200815
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    #200813
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    Very topical:
    https://videocardz.com/blog/all-amd-radeon-rx-vega-64-sins

    I disagree on the mining part. Miners are consumers too and as long as it aint illegal, they deserve it just as much as any gamer.

    #200809
    Jester
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    The good thing about mining is that them going for AMD keeps competition alive. Downside is obvious; reduced stock and higher prices.

    #200812
    Charcharo
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    Miners also buy Nvidia cards. Anyways, they are customers that seem to not be going away so I guess both Nvidia and AMD need to address them.

    #200810
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    Vega launch is such a joke. Honestly never seen such a poor launch and lineup of cards. Vega 56 is only somewhat decent, and will no doubt be out of stock instantly when it releases and not in reasonable stock for months, I guarantee it.

    #200811
    Charcharo
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    The pricing makes it worse. Like if it was MSRP and not a paper launch, it would make sense. Not great but OK. But this shit…
    Even *I* can release a better product and I am retarded…

    EDIT
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBGkGGR5T9o
    Interesting. Same as on RX 560, worse than 1070… so DSBR isnt working. AMD promised it would…

    #200816
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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AavuWT17X48

    AMD is retarded, or should I say – Radeon Technology Group.

    #200817
    Charcharo
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    about right atm.

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